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Offline Greg Groess

Another image for you to try out.
« on: September 03, 2010, 09:05:44 AM »
Everyone...

I am attaching a larger version of this image so you have more data to work with.  This is an image that I really wrestle with...

I await your versions...I'm going to stay out of this as long as possible...Have at it...

Greg
« Last Edit: September 03, 2010, 09:30:48 AM by Greg Groess »
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Offline themightyzog

Re: Another image for you to try out.
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2010, 09:24:06 AM »
This is a very strange exposure Greg - the figure on the left seems to have moved.  What was the shutter speed and did you hand hold it?
Zog

Offline Greg Groess

Re: Another image for you to try out.
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2010, 09:27:30 AM »
About 10 seconds...BTW they did not know they were being shot. 
What they were looking at had them frozen...I was trying to be sneaky.
It was a tripod shot i did get off two exposures before they were aware of me...I grabbed the wrong one from the hard drive...
I replaced the image Chris...try it again...

Greg
« Last Edit: September 03, 2010, 09:32:19 AM by Greg Groess »
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Offline themightyzog

Re: Another image for you to try out.
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2010, 09:51:31 AM »
But... but... please Sir, I've only just finished processing the first one!!

Ah well will try the second one properly - but here is the 1st one as a quick idea to see what might give...
FocusMagic 2 pixels
Lighten Shadows action
Local Contrast 50 pixels
Equalise Man from Mans
CurveMeister - Lab Sat with L channel mask

Is that the sort of image you are after,  or have I blown it as usual?

I like the idea of quickly playing to get a feel of how one could present the image and then after various experiments, try and pick the best approach - am just playing with Orton blur to see if that gives a nice feel to the image...
Zog
PS am being told I'm not allow more than 300BK on file size - so this is at quality 1

Offline themightyzog

Re: Another image for you to try out.
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2010, 09:54:30 AM »
So here is Orton - I quite like the effect
(quality 3 again to get under 300KB)

Offline themightyzog

Re: Another image for you to try out.
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2010, 10:22:51 AM »
Yes I like the Orton effect, but not the colour - so here is my attempt at the 2nd one
(still hitting the 300KB limit!).
I shall be interested to see a normal rendition, as playing with the L channel and an inverted L mask in CurveMeister, one seems to be able to bring the boys up quite nicely without over blowing the trees.
Zog

Offline Greg Groess

Re: Another image for you to try out.
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2010, 10:40:56 AM »
I'd have to say the first is closest to the way i remember the scene...
I'm going to try your method on it and see where it leads me...  The Orton stuff is interesting but the light was late evening and very golden coming through the trees and moss as it was...

Greg
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Offline Lee Harper

Re: Another image for you to try out.
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2010, 03:25:26 PM »
I've been looking forward to trying my hand with this image ;D

In the spirit of trying out a few different correction methods, this is simply a first attempt...

Something that I've been giving a lot of thought to over the last month is how much should be done to the image before curves are applied; and, what place raw conversion programs have in a curve-based workflow. This correction makes use of Adobe Camera Raw - I used some curves afterwards...

What I'm interested in is how my next attempt - which will not incorporate any ACR adjustments - will stack up next to this version. Will it look better? I've heard that (so long as the curves are being created by somebody sufficiently sophisticated) it ought to; I guess we shall see. ;)

Greg - do these colors evoke what you remember of the scene?

Cheers,
Lee.

Offline gremurphoto

Re: Another image for you to try out.
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2010, 11:47:55 AM »
First step was shad/hilite with color correction off,then photo filter warming filter with a tint I selected.
CM for lightness,edge sharpening,back to CM to put a neutral on the grey hoodie and finally HD sharpening at about 30% opacity.GregM

Offline Lee Harper

Re: Another image for you to try out.
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2010, 08:19:17 AM »
Ok, here is the version that didn't use Adobe Camera Raw (I'm not sure which I like best)...

I started with an Overlay channel blend, used the (Image > Adjustments > ) Exposure (Gamma slider) tool a bit, and some Man from Mars curves.

Lee.

Offline Greg Groess

Re: Another image for you to try out.
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2010, 08:20:54 AM »
Lee I'd have to say I like the previous version better just for the feeling I think..I might do a side by side just to see...

Greg
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Offline sjordan93436

Re: Another image for you to try out.
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2010, 03:57:33 PM »
I thought I might try it.  I used CR followed by CM. 

Offline julie

Re: Another image for you to try out.
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2010, 06:02:18 PM »
Greg

I tried for a while here. I ended up not making a great deal of difference. I did not want to make it too light and I wanted to keep it a bit mysterious and majical looking.
We have rainforest in tasmania and I was reminded of it. Let me know what you think

Julie

Offline Greg Groess

Re: Another image for you to try out.
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2010, 08:11:59 PM »
I think what I am going to do for this little image is put all of them together in 1 large file and do some side by side comparisons.  I will have lot's more to say at that point...I am really glad everyone is trying this out.  It gives me many different views of this rather interesting image...

There is a story that goes along with this image...BTW...

On a recent vacation with my family to Western Washington State here in the US. My sons were walking ahead of me and the whole time they were knocking each other around and laughing and generally having a teen aged old good time when suddenly they both stopped and the youngest one just sat down...I called ahead on the trail to them and asked if everything was alright...They both had a hard time giving me an answer...They were looking as you see them and I was fortunate enough to be able to grab 2 quick exposures before they moved.  The answer that was given finally was..."um...Dad, you have to see this..." and at that I walked up to them. 

What we saw was a open glade in the deep woods with golden shafts of sunlight streaming down into the forest floor.  It truly was amazing to see such a sight...needless to say it left both boys speechless...As my oldest said at the time.."Well at least I know what God's front door looks like..."

So..I have been waiting and watching...I have tried various approaches to the image and have never been totally satisfied with the results.  I have to say that some of the images posted are quite well done and I need to compare them all side by side.

I wanted you all to know the method behind the madness for this little image...

Thank you all for your efforts and for your continuing efforts...
Greg
« Last Edit: September 06, 2010, 08:21:42 PM by Greg Groess »
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Offline themightyzog

Re: Another image for you to try out.
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2010, 02:49:02 AM »
Well I had thought it was some animal up in the trees - I guess you are going to have a really difficult time capturing the essence of that moment in an image.
Good luck and thanks for tell us the story behind it