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Flower vendor using the Jacob's Ladder

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Greg Groess:
Jacob...

Attached is a image from the class that I have tried to use the JL process on.
Some comments and questions....if you don't mind...

I find myself feeling like I hit this with a very large hammer and then pounded it into shape slowly.  What I guess I mean is I had to make grand changes to see some of the effect and then tweak it back problem by problem to get it somewhere near what I thought it should look like.  Is that because of the "zoom" layer or am I missing some other part of the process that makes the changes easier to see.

I did open a hue clock on the image but I found it really difficult to hit the skin tones.  Without the PS info pallet it was very dicey to get anywhere near what I thought a correct value was.  Is there any way you can see to allow the info pallet to sample the original without the overlaying filters?  I could not divine one; but I certainly am not the PS expert I have my pattern of use and I keep pushing myself into new areas.

Here are my curves and the images...
Any additional information anyone could add would help me get a better understanding of this interesting technique.
The last image is a screen cap of the original image found in the CM class work I can post a better version if needed.
Greg

themightyzog:
Greg, you do not say what 'controlling' channel you used.

Here is a very quick attempt (less than 2 mins) using the L channel (with my action "Manual by Lch") with no curving of the L channel before using the Jacob's layers - not much change to the contrast, but I could have dialed in more.  I left the zoom opacity at 80%.

What I don't see how to do is add saturation, but I'm happy to do that as a separate step.

Does this simple curving help at all?

Chris

Greg Groess:
Zog are you using CM as a smart filter in place of one of the Layers??

Interesting...I though about that but was unsure how to implement it.  If by controlling layer you mean which layer did I do my adjustments in I used the LAB version of the ladder action.  I then adjusted L in the L channel adjustment layer colored red and the other channels in each of the other red highlighted layers.  I made sure I changed the channels when I went into each one so i was not just adjusting the L channel always.

Your question leads me to believe that I am missing the boat totally here...

Greg

themightyzog:
I think you are missing something - I certainly got confused when I started.

I do not think it is possible to use CM, I just used its curves for a quick screen grab.  I did everything in PS. 

If you have downloaded my actions (http://www.broadhurst-family.co.uk/lefteye/MainPages/jacob's_actions.htm), then just run the "Manual by Lch" on the rgb image - answer yes to both dialogs and then play with the single "Curves 1" layer - that should get you going.

Does that help? - if so then you can 'progress' on to Jacobs action (2nd image) and his more complete layers.  But I'm simple minded and rarely use all three.

I'm off to bed now - have fun and if I can help leave a message and I'll answer tomorrow
Chris
 

Greg Groess:
Ok I tried it your way...
Much easier at least for now...


But there is trouble in paradise...In shot 1 I have a reasonable correction unitl......

In shot2.. I zoom into the face to see whats going on...

I tried to kill this off but was unsuccessful.  any thoughts??

Greg

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